Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Seeing as IH2 has a minor bug and hopefully the authors will do a IH2 Rev 8c for all the people who use it..

is what is discussed here possible?
http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=159994

I ask not because I use IH2, but because I feel uncomfortable with a mod that may allow for a security issue and someone's site getting screwed over when it could be avoided

Again, could someone please post a link to a site that uses IH2 showing this zoom feature and enlarge to click option? Please....

Ian

check the site in my signature.

Thanks ClydeJones, I like how you've chosen to keep your background when viewing an image relatively see through; however, I really would like to see a site with a mouse over zoom features in use. Are you aware of one? Something like the one below; which is a paid module by Magic Tools.

Ian
http://www.caffedellamoda.com/museum-giacca-art-md20372-Guess-p-3100.html?zenid=dra786plh532r9qui575idmbj1

r1formetoo:

Thanks ClydeJones, I like how you've chosen to keep your background when viewing an image relatively see through; however, I really would like to see a site with a mouse over zoom features in use. Are you aware of one? Something like the one below; which is a paid module by Magic Tools.

Ian
http://www.caffedellamoda.com/museum-giacca-art-md20372-Guess-p-3100.html?zenid=dra786plh532r9qui575idmbj1

No I don't and BTW the "magiczoom" feature has nothing to do with Image handler which has its own zoom feature.

DivaVocals, thanks for your positive response!

Since you have it working well, I'll give it one last shot now that I have upgraded to the latest 1.3.9d zencart.

Well, I am happy to report that DivaVocals is right and my post was premature. The latest version of Image Handler works like a charm for me with zencart 1.3.9d. At last!

Clyde is right.. and I added it to the readme of the latest versions so that it was very clear.. Image Handler at it's heart is meant to ease the process of image management. If you need fancy image effects only, then Image Handler may not be the right module for you (and may NOT be compatible with such modules)

To address r1formetoo's question if you are looking for a module which offers a fancy hover on the medium image (medium image = the image that displays on the product info page) like the module you mention, then as has been discussed frequently here in this support thread (and is outlined in the readme that comes with Image Handler) Image Handler does not have what your are looking for. Image Handler's own image hover feature adds the hover effect to the small images (the ones which appear on the product listing pages).

The Image Handler readme goes into detail WHY this is, but long story short, adding hover on medium images seems to interfere with lightbox contirbutions.

clydejones:

No I don't and BTW the "magiczoom" feature has nothing to do with Image handler which has its own zoom feature.

r1formetoo:

Thanks ClydeJones, I like how you've chosen to keep your background when viewing an image relatively see through; however, I really would like to see a site with a mouse over zoom features in use. Are you aware of one? Something like the one below; which is a paid module by Magic Tools.

Ian
http://www.caffedellamoda.com/museum-giacca-art-md20372-Guess-p-3100.html?zenid=dra786plh532r9qui575idmbj1

tpeck:

Well, I am happy to report that DivaVocals is right and my post was premature. The latest version of Image Handler works like a charm for me with zencart 1.3.9d. At last!
:clap::clap::clap:

DivaVocals:

I'll check in with Carlos and see if he can take a look at the IH2 code.. Hopefully he still lurks and has seen these posts..
I lurk every now and then, who the heck is Carlos?
Diva is doing a pretty good job supporting this thread so no need for me to get involved.
The 404 error in the admin is simply a failure to load files, there are some files that are tricky because in the root of folders. where they share space with folders:
/admin/image_handler.php
/admin/includes/ih_manager.php
This problem has already been addressed "ad nauseam".
I use the files that I have submitted to Diva and have no problem whatsoever with watermarks: be it product_info image or additional; sizes small, medium or large.
I have set it up this way at www.ladywig.com for users to see, still haven't made up my mind to continue watermarking images.
Site design and content are obsolete.

The watermarking works just fine on the large images.. However it seems to not work on the additional large images.. I'm at a race event right now.. So I'll test more when I get back home tonight.. will report back my findings later..

Just so it's clear to all, watermarking and fancy image effects is NOT the reason to use Image Handler.. You should use Image Handler to ease management of your product images and to optimize your product images (ie improve imagerendering/performance).. Watermarking and fancy hovering are nice features, but they are not the compelling reason to use Image Handler at all..

ckosloff:

I lurk every now and then, who the heck is Carlos?
Diva is doing a pretty good job supporting this thread so no need for me to get involved.
The 404 error in the admin is simply a failure to load files, there are some files that are tricky because in the root of folders. where they share space with folders:
/admin/image_handler.php
/admin/includes/ih_manager.php
This problem has already been addressed "ad nauseam".
I use the files that I have submitted to Diva and have no problem whatsoever with watermarks: be it product_info image or additional; sizes small, medium or large.
I have set it up this way at www.ladywig.com for users to see, still haven't made up my mind to continue watermarking images.
Site design and content are obsolete.
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hmmm.. no interest in fixing the random additional images watermark 'hit and miss' problem... so i guess the development of this mod is dead then... ethics must have now gone out the window.

I must make a note of that in the 139 list of working 138 mods on next update, including the 777 chmod security risk IH2 may open people up to. :shocking:

Shane78:

hmmm.. no interest in fixing the random additional images watermark 'hit and miss' problem... so i guess the development of this mod is dead then... ethics must have now gone out the window.

I must make a note of that in the 139 list of working 138 mods on next update, including the 777 chmod security risk IH2 may open people up to. :shocking:

Hey Shane, I was thinking of installing this mod until your post. Would you mind pointing me to the page of a security discussion or just explain your concern?

Ian

r1formetoo:

Hey Shane, I was thinking of installing this mod until your post. Would you mind pointing me to the page of a security discussion or just explain your concern?

Ian

IH2 is an excellent mod... I used to use it and would recommend it to all. However, i get the feeling that development is dead as the two main coders use some IMHO bad ZC fork. Also while DivaVocal does a great job in supporting this mod, she herself admits that her coding skills aint good enough to be a main developer of this mod.

when i seen ppl saying they cant get additional watermarks to work i thought i would try and i too failed. while i was reading the documentation i thought.. WTF is it doing using chmod setting at 777 in this day and age, especially when in the ZC docs it is stated 777 is very bad.

so i posed the question here, I asked on this IH2 thread if it could be integrated but it fell on deaf ears.

I had a bespoke mod created that does the same job as IH2 solely for the fact I needed image resizing & watermarks ASAP as my server is php5.3 and rev8 was taking too long. That doesnt use any folders at 777, so I guess with the developers being bright men they could fix this if they wanted to.

Overall, I still recommend IH2, but this 777 setting causes me unrest.

http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=159994

Interesting. Now I don't know if I should trust this mod and use it or pay the $ for Ma gic To ols....... I really like the idea of not having to go create extra images for large pictures and thumbnails and so on but I also haven't seen IH2's working mouse over zoom feature either......

Ian

there is no doubt (from what i have read and experienced) that IH2 improves the speed of a ZC website.. but until someone smart and trusted says “in this case the chmod 777 in the IH2 BMZcache folder is safe”, then its something i wont risk using again.

Simply as my biggest fear is that of being hacked. (and wasps, they scare me too)

and i think one day some nasty ***** will workout a way to hack this folder and do damage.

But I could be wrong.... but nee one seems to be vocal about the security questions I have asked... so i will keep my guard up for now

Shane78:

...............

Overall, I still recommend IH2, but this 777 setting causes me unrest.

Setting the bmz_cache to 755 works just fine for me.

nods in agreement EVERY install of IH2 I've ever done I have the exact same settings..

clydejones:

Setting the bmz_cache to 755 works just fine for me.
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I'm positive that no one has made any statements like this at all.. Youare free to jump to your own conclusions though..

as for the permissions "issue" with the bmz_cache.. This is leftover text from the original IH2 readme text.. It's a typo error I'm sure since as Clyde has pointed out (and I concur) setting permissions to 775 works just fine.. when we address the reported watermarking issue the readme will be updated..> Shane78:

hmmm.. no interest in fixing the random additional images watermark 'hit and miss' problem... so i guess the development of this mod is dead then... ethics must have now gone out the window.

I must make a note of that in the 139 list of working 138 mods on next update, including the 777 chmod security risk IH2 may open people up to. :shocking:
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DivaVocals:

nods in agreement EVERY install of IH2 I've ever done I have the exact same settings..

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I think this section from the readme doc might be a source of confusion.

Other trouble shooting tips

Set permissions in your images and bmz_cache folder to 777 (they need to be the same, in some cases 755 also works).