Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

BlessIsaacola,

You're right, removing that code means that any additionel images are removed both on the product page and in Gallery View. So it didn't solve my problems.
Nevertheless, many thanks for your quick reply.

Cheers,

Kim

Jeff_Mash:

I have, but it still isn't showing. I put a watermark_LRG.png in my images/large directory (which doesn't have any image files, mind you)......and I have a watermark.png in the root of my /images directory, but it still hasn't put anything on the "larger" images since it's launching them straight from the root images folder.

And I'm using IH2.

So I have an Example.jpg which I upload. The small thumbnail is loaded from a bmz_cache location with a watermark. The medium thumbnail also loads from a bmz_cache location with a watermark. The "larger image" that pops up from the product page is loading the original image from the /store/images/ directory, and it's not watermarked. If I can only get images to watermark from this directory, we would be GOLDEN!

Any more ideas? I appreciate your help!

Just for kicks what happens if you copy your watermark_LRG.png to root/images/ as well and then copy watermark.png to root/images/large/ as well.

Also, are you putting watermark to promote branding or to prevent people from stealing your images?

If it's to prevent people from stealing your images, you're simply wasting your time because with a Firefox plugin they can get to all your images that doesn't have watermark on it.

The Firefox plugin simply makes the process easy but can be done with any browser.

If watermarking for branding, that's a completely different story.

PUREchocolatetruffle:

BlessIsaacola,

You're right, removing that code means that any additionel images are removed both on the product page and in Gallery View. So it didn't solve my problems.
Nevertheless, many thanks for your quick reply.

Cheers,

Kim

If I may ask, what are you trying to accomplish as that might help in figuring out a solution. Is this more of dealing with presentation so your page is cleaner or is there something else behind what you're trying to achieve?

I went ahead and put the watermark.png in the images/large folder, and also put the watermark_LRG.png into the store/images folder. Still no watermark. Note that I haven't cleared any cache though, but didn't think that would make a difference since it's not loading this from the bmz_cache directory, but rather from the root images folder.

And I am using it for branding AND to deter image theft. It also helps spread the word about our site for those who may link to the image and see our name on it.

BlessIsaacola:

Just for kicks what happens if you copy your watermark_LRG.png to root/images/ as well and then copy watermark.png to root/images/large/ as well.

Also, are you putting watermark to promote branding or to prevent people from stealing your images?

If it's to prevent people from stealing your images, you're simply wasting your time because with a Firefox plugin they can get to all your images that doesn't have watermark on it.

The Firefox plugin simply makes the process easy but can be done with any browser.

If watermarking for branding, that's a completely different story.

Stop the press! Hold your horses!

I did what I probably should have done from the beginning: I reinstalled. I didn't see why that would matter, since I never touched the installation for IH2, but since upgrading to a newer version of ZC, it probably would have been a good idea to do it for good measure. Now that I upgraded, things are working.

Thanks again for all your help!

Jeff_Mash:

Stop the press! Hold your horses!

I did what I probably should have done from the beginning: I reinstalled. I didn't see why that would matter, since I never touched the installation for IH2, but since upgrading to a newer version of ZC, it probably would have been a good idea to do it for good measure. Now that I upgraded, things are working.

Thanks again for all your help!

Glad it's working for you now.

Jeff_Mash:

Stop the press! Hold your horses!

I did what I probably should have done from the beginning: I reinstalled. I didn't see why that would matter, since I never touched the installation for IH2, but since upgrading to a newer version of ZC, it probably would have been a good idea to do it for good measure. Now that I upgraded, things are working.

Thanks again for all your help!
Which IH2 version are you running?? There have been two upgrades to IH2 for Zen Cart 1.3.9 compatibility.. (including support for PHP 5.3 and other important updates -- watermarking is still included and has never been removed from any release) There have been a few changes and improvements so I suggest reading the readme installation instructions before upgrading and follow the upgrade instructions...

I suggest upgrading to the latest version available in the downloads section..

gaffettape:

Hi,

Does anybody know of a way I can add the same additional image to every product in say 2 or 3 categories using IH2?

In my case I want to add an additional image (i.e an additional image after the first default image has been added manually) of a generic gift box included with all products within said category/categories - it would save me a few hours work :wink:

Thanks.

I would try giving it a new name for each item you want to upload it to for instance...

giftbx.jpg then giftbx1.jpg

but if you are going to upload it eachtime with the new item via the IH control center then make sure it is the additional images not the main image you upload...product main image gets uploaded first then any of your next images since the software will rename it to that items main image name and append a number to it.

so if you have necklace.jpg as the main one the software will rename the next images you place thru the controls---or you can name them to upload directly to server as:

necklace_01.jpg with necklace_02.jpg as the next one showing and so forth for as many images you wish to show for that particular item.

DivaVocals:

Which IH2 version are you running?? There have been two upgrades to IH2 for Zen Cart 1.3.9 compatibility.. (including support for PHP 5.3 and other important updates -- watermarking is still included and has never been removed from any release) There have been a few changes and improvements so I suggest reading the readme installation instructions before upgrading and follow the upgrade instructions...

I suggest upgrading to the latest version available in the downloads section..

The latest version also runs faster which is another reason to upgrade (this may not be an issue for some but we have 1,000s of products on our site).

BlessIsaacola:

If I may ask, what are you trying to accomplish as that might help in figuring out a solution. Is this more of dealing with presentation so your page is cleaner or is there something else behind what you're trying to achieve?

Yes, I want to make my page cleaner and I don't want my customers to see the detail image before they have clicked on the main product image.
As you (hopefully) can see on my attachment, I have circled and arrowed the additionel image.

Cheers,

Kim

Hi Everyone,

I have a couple of questions and I hope I can get some answers from all you good people!

I have installed Fual Slimbox and Image Handler 2. I installed Fual Slimbox because I didn't like the pop-up screen used with Image Handler. Here are my issues:

When you click on an image the overlay and image displays properly(with Fual Slimbox), however there is no watermark visible. Watermarks through IH2 is enabled and works but only when Fual Slimbox is disabled. Does anyone know how I can get these two to play nice?

When viewing additional product images you need to view each image in it's own windows. The "prev" and "next" options do not appear. This option is also available with using Fual Slimbox...I know it's a different add on but since I've read that these two are used together a lot, thought I'd ask here.

Any my last question. Is there a way to ftp your images and have them resized or do you need to add one image at a time through the admin set up?

Any suggestions? I've been searching for a solution for this for a while. Thank you!

gaffettape:

Hi,

Does anybody know of a way I can add the same additional image to every product in say 2 or 3 categories using IH2?

In my case I want to add an additional image (i.e an additional image after the first default image has been added manually) of a generic gift box included with all products within said category/categories - it would save me a few hours work :wink:

Thanks.
This is less of an IH2 "issues" and more of a function of how additional images in general work in Zen Cart which IH2 works WITH but does not alter.

More information on how additional images work in Zen Cart can be found here:
How do I add multiple images to a product?
https://www.zen-cart.com/tutorials/index.php?article=58

DarkAngel:

I would try giving it a new name for each item you want to upload it to for instance...

giftbx.jpg then giftbx1.jpgThis is only partially true.. Using these image names as an example, this will be the result.

Product 1 has main image named giftbx.jpg
Product 2 has main image named giftbx1.jpg

Product 1 will display giftbx1.jpg as it's additional image
Product 2 will display giftbx.jpg as it's additional image

Adding IH2 to this mix, let's say you upload 3 additional images to Product 1. Regardless of the source file name, IH2 will rename those images based on the main product image. So an image named necklace.jpg, necklace1.jpg, necklace2.jpg uploaded to Product 1 via IH2 will be renamed as follows:
giftbx_01.jpg
giftbx_02.jpg
giftbx_03.jpg

After you upload the additional images this will be the result:

Product 1 will display the follow additional images:
giftbx1.jpg
giftbx_01.jpg
giftbx_02.jpg
giftbx_03.jpg

Product 2 will display the follow additional images:
giftbx.jpg
giftbx_01.jpg
giftbx_02.jpg
giftbx_03.jpg

More on how additional images in Zen Cart works can be found here:
Why am I seeing images for other products on my product pages?
https://www.zen-cart.com/tutorials/index.php?article=315

If you want products to share additional images and use the IH2 controls for uploading those additional images, it can be done, but you will REALLY need to plan out the naming of your main product images.

DivaVocals:

This is less of an IH2 "issues" and more of a function of how additional images in general work in Zen Cart which IH2 works WITH but does not alter.

More information on how additional images work in Zen Cart can be found here:
How do I add multiple images to a product?
https://www.zen-cart.com/tutorials/index.php?article=58

This is only partially true.. Using these image names as an example, this will be the result.

Product 1 has main image named giftbx.jpg
Product 2 has main image named giftbx1.jpg

Product 1 will display giftbx1.jpg as it's additional image
Product 2 will display giftbx.jpg as it's additional image

Adding IH2 to this mix, let's say you upload 3 additional images to Product 1. Regardless of the source file name, IH2 will rename those images based on the main product image. So an image named necklace.jpg, necklace1.jpg, necklace2.jpg uploaded to Product 1 via IH2 will be renamed as follows:
giftbx_01.jpg
giftbx_02.jpg
giftbx_03.jpg

After you upload the additional images this will be the result:

Product 1 will display the follow additional images:
giftbx1.jpg
giftbx_01.jpg
giftbx_02.jpg
giftbx_03.jpg

Product 2 will display the follow additional images:
giftbx.jpg
giftbx_01.jpg
giftbx_02.jpg
giftbx_03.jpg

More on how additional images in Zen Cart works can be found here:
Why am I seeing images for other products on my product pages?
https://www.zen-cart.com/tutorials/index.php?article=315

If you want products to share additional images and use the IH2 controls for uploading those additional images, it can be done, but you will REALLY need to plan out the naming of your main product images.

Thanks for the detailed response Diva, very useful :bigups:

joyjoy:

Hi Everyone,

I have a couple of questions and I hope I can get some answers from all you good people!

I have installed Fual Slimbox and Image Handler 2. I installed Fual Slimbox because I didn't like the pop-up screen used with Image Handler. Here are my issues:

When you click on an image the overlay and image displays properly(with Fual Slimbox), however there is no watermark visible. Watermarks through IH2 is enabled and works but only when Fual Slimbox is disabled. Does anyone know how I can get these two to play nice?

When viewing additional product images you need to view each image in it's own windows. The "prev" and "next" options do not appear. This option is also available with using Fual Slimbox...I know it's a different add on but since I've read that these two are used together a lot, thought I'd ask here.

Any my last question. Is there a way to ftp your images and have them resized or do you need to add one image at a time through the admin set up?

Any suggestions? I've been searching for a solution for this for a while. Thank you!

If you rename your images to match the main image you do through admin you can upload them and they will show up once you add the main image.

like:

main.jpg
main_01.jpg
main_02.jpg

but remember to name it unique to the item you are uploading or should you have two items with the same named images...they will show in both products.

I hope that makes sense...lol

as for the other questions...

did youupload the watermark images to the server?

did you check the files for both add ons to see if they share one or more...then if they do you will need to merge those files together for it to work.

joyjoy:

Hi Everyone,

I have a couple of questions and I hope I can get some answers from all you good people!

I have installed Fual Slimbox and Image Handler 2. I installed Fual Slimbox because I didn't like the pop-up screen used with Image Handler. Here are my issues:

When you click on an image the overlay and image displays properly(with Fual Slimbox), however there is no watermark visible. Watermarks through IH2 is enabled and works but only when Fual Slimbox is disabled. Does anyone know how I can get these two to play nice?

When viewing additional product images you need to view each image in it's own windows. The "prev" and "next" options do not appear. This option is also available with using Fual Slimbox...I know it's a different add on but since I've read that these two are used together a lot, thought I'd ask here.

Any my last question. Is there a way to ftp your images and have them resized or do you need to add one image at a time through the admin set up?

Any suggestions? I've been searching for a solution for this for a while. Thank you!I posted a response to you on the Fual Slimbox support thread.. (http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showpost.php?p=942931&postcount=477) I'll repeat it here..

Honestly it sounds like you have both modules installed incorrectly.. I suspect the real issue is that the files that both IH2 and Fual Slimbox have in common haven't been correctly merged. (Hence why they don't work together) Wish I could tell you there was a quick fix, but I can't. IMHO before you try any quick fixes to resolve this issue, you need to start with two properly installed and functionally working modules.. (which I do not believe you have at this time)

I suggest the following steps to resolve your issue..

• Roll back to a version of your store without IH2 and Fual Slimbox installed
• Install IH2 and configure it to your desired settings.
• BACKUP your store (yes AGAIN -- you should back up your store EVERY TIME before you install a module so IF things don't work or something breaks you can roll back)
• BEFORE YOU INSTALL FUAL SLIMBOX use a program like Winmerge or Beyond Compare and look for any files in your store backup that will be overwritten by Fual Slimbox and MERGE the Fual Slimbox code with the code already in these files. THEN upload Fual Slimbox..
  HTH..

Hey!

Thank you so much for your response. I think that both are installed properly as they work fine indepently apart from each other. However...this merging is new to me! I haven't merged any files at all...so that's probably where my problems lie.

Can you please give me more details on this and let me know which files I need to merge together?

Or would you suggest an full uninstall of both add ons and just start fresh? I haven't added pictures since I've been stuck at this roadblock but to roll back my cart to a version prior to these installs would be losing countless hours of modifications...

Thank you again!

joyjoy:

Hey!

Thank you so much for your response.** I think that both are installed properly as they work fine indepently apart from each other.** However...this merging is new to me! I haven't merged any files at all...so that's probably where my problems lie.
I have to disagree.. For these modules to work together then you have to make sure they are installed properly so that will work together. Part of properly installing them includes merging the files they have in common. IMO it's clear that you haven't done this, and that is the MOST likely reason why they are not working well TOGETHER..

joyjoy:

Can you please give me more details on this and let me know which files I need to merge together?

Or would you suggest an full uninstall of both add ons and just start fresh? I haven't added pictures since I've been stuck at this roadblock but to roll back my cart to a version prior to these installs would be losing countless hours of modifications...

Thank you again!

The Image Handler readme files provides you with a list of core Zen Cart files that will be overwritten when you install these modules. I don't remember if the Fual Slimbox readme includes a list of files in the module install folders. Even if the Fual Slimbox module doesn't provide this same list, using a file comparison program will allow you to see which files will be overwritten by re-installing Fual Slimbox.

joyjoy:

Or would you suggest an full uninstall of both add ons and just start fresh? I haven't added pictures since I've been stuck at this roadblock but to roll back my cart to a version prior to these installs would be losing countless hours of modifications...

Thank you again!

Again I suggest the following steps to resolve your issue..

• Roll back to a version of your store without IH2 and Fual Slimbox installed
• Install IH2 and configure it to your desired settings.
• BACKUP your store (yes AGAIN -- you should back up your store EVERY TIME before you install a module so IF things don't work or something breaks you can roll back)
• BEFORE YOU INSTALL FUAL SLIMBOX use a file comparison program like Winmerge or Beyond Compare and look for any files in your store backup that will be overwritten by Fual Slimbox and MERGE the Fual Slimbox code with the code already in these files. THEN upload Fual Slimbox..
  I believe that once you get these modules properly merged they will work together just fine..

joyjoy:

Hey!

Thank you so much for your response. I think that both are installed properly as they work fine indepently apart from each other. However...this merging is new to me! I haven't merged any files at all...so that's probably where my problems lie.

Can you please give me more details on this and let me know which files I need to merge together?

Or would you suggest an full uninstall of both add ons and just start fresh? I haven't added pictures since I've been stuck at this roadblock but to roll back my cart to a version prior to these installs would be losing countless hours of modifications...

Thank you again!Wanted to add this.. Here is an example in my test store of what Fual Slimbox and IH2 working together should look like:
http://zentestcart.overthehillweb.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=3

I achieved this by doing EXACTLY what I am suggesting to you that you do to resolve your issues.. (Backup, compare files, and merge the code in all of the common files) I realize you do not want to step back, but IMO you need to go back and start over so that you can get this done correctly.. There is no real quick fix to your issue.. The real solution truly lies in properly merging the common files in the two modules with the existing code in your store.

A file comparison program (like the two I suggested) will really help you with this task.. I personally use Beyond Compare which unlike Winmerge is not a freebie, but Beyond Compare has a pretty generous free trial period for you to really get a feel for what it will do.. After trying it for a lengthy period of time I opted to invest in it because it really s a GREAT program and makes the job of comparing and merging files pretty easy..

BlessIsaacola:

The latest version also runs faster which is another reason to upgrade (this may not be an issue for some but we have 1,000s of products on our site).Indeed, and thanks for pointing this out as well!:smile:

I've just upgraded a client's site from 1.3.7 to 1.3.9g.

I had Image Handler2 installed. We used it for the zoom and watermark.

What is strange is that both the watermark and the zoom work everywhere except for the product page. Take a look @ https://www.uncommonscissors.com.

I've done what debugging I could and searched this thread, I've uninstalled, cleared the cache (ftp'd in and removed all the images) and reinstalled IH2.

Mind you, it is working, just not on the product page - well, it does work on the "also purchased" module that is on the product page.

Can anyone help?

Thanks!
Linda