Optional Shipping Insurance Module [Support Thread]

Bravo girl!!!!!!:clap:

ScriptJunkie:

Hi tj,

Shipping, Shipping Insurance, and Priority Order Handling are all listed separately. Now that I have all my OT Mod in the correct sort order, they show in this order:

$84.92
Sub-Total:

-$21.23
Discount Coupon: Welcome Coupon:

$25.00
Priority Handling:

$5.99
Illinois Sales Tax = 6.75%:

$1.56
United States Postal Service (First-Class Mail (2 - 5 days)):

$2.15
Shipping Insurance:

-$98.39
Gift Certificates Applied:

$0.00
Total:

DivaVocals:

Bravo girl!!!!!!:clap:
Thanks! For some reason OT sort order was a real challenge for me. I really had to play around with it to come to an understanding of how it works. When I think it through, it all makes sense....but I think when I initially set it up, I was thinking of sort order from a design p.o.v. and how the items would appear on a page....it honestly did not occur to me that when it comes to OT sort order, items=debits and credits, therefore accounting function absolutely plays a role - duh :blush:

My next task with this mod is to figure out how it to make it calc insurance cost based on shipping method selected, but I'll put that in a new post.

Hi Numinix,

I'm using this mod, version 3.13 with ZC 139h.

Went to USPS yesterday to get updated insurance rates in order to update the data in admin for this mod. I noticed that they have insurance rates for standard domestic shipping, as well as express domestic shipping, shipping to Canada from the US and other international shipping. (I'm using rate tables)

I understand that in order to make the mod calc the correct insurance rate for Canada and international, I need to set up zones and connect the appropriate rates to their corresponding zones. I've taken care of that already.

But what I don't understand is this....the customer can choose various methods of standard domestic shipping (first class, parcel post, etc.) for which there is one insurance cost of X amount.

Or, they can choose priority domestic shipping for which the insurance costs X amount.

How do I get the mod to apply the correct insurance rate when there's no place to enter the differing rates in the admin? I'm thinking the use of zones wouldn't work in this instance (like it works for Canadian and International shipping)....because zones are zip code driven, are they not?

Therefore, setting up a new zone with the rate for priority domestic vs. standard domestic wouldn't help the mod select the correct insurance rate because I'd basically have two different sets of rates for the same zone.

Can you please advise?

Numinix replied via email that the solution to the above question is to clone the mod. Wanted to put that out there for anyone else that might be having the same issue and is looking for a resolution.

So i just installed the optional insurance mod on my zen cart 139h and it wont display the option to get insurance during the checkout, WTH,

Enable Insurance Module
Do you want to enable this module? To fully turn this off, both this option and the one below should be set to false.

true

Sort Order
299

Use Table Rates?
Do you want to use Table Rates?

true

Alternate Insurance Type
If not using USPS rates, would you like to charge by percentage of cart total, or by a specific amount?

3.5 percent

Insurance Percentage
If using percent, what percentage of subtotal to charge for insurance.
.50

Insurance Rate
What amount do you want to charge per increment amount.
.50

Increment Amount
For each how many dollars, ie. the increment amount, of the total(e.g. 100 here and .50 for the rate above would mean 50 cents fee for every 100 of the amount to be insured).
100

Amount Exempt From Fee
(Works with INCREMENT and TABLE RATE amounts) Set this to the part of the total that is exempt from the Shipping Insurance. (ie. set to 100 for all orders under 100 to be exempt, already insured, etc.)
100

Tax Class
Use the following tax class on the insurance fee.

Taxable Goods

No Insurance Fee on Virtual Products
Do not charge insurance fee when cart is Virtual Products Only

true

No Insurance Fee on Gift Vouchers
Do not charge insurance fee when cart is Gift Vouchers only

true

No Insurance Fee on Free Shipping
Do not calculate insurance for products that have free shipping (includes gv and virtual products)

true

Required Insurance Amount
Automatically charge shipping insurance for amounts over X dollars

10000

LRS:

Here is how I got it to work, not sure on the order of creation...sorry

Make a new Zone called Shipping Insurance Zone

Make a new tax class called Shipping Insurance

Create a new tax rate for Shipping Insurance tax class with 0% as the tax rate.

Set up the Shipping Insurance Module the way you want it ( I only tried this with a percentage rate, didn't try tables)

--- I don't know if all of these steps are needed but after doing all the above the insurance fee shows up at the final checkout step right above the sub total line.

It would be nice if it was also visible on the shipping selection page so they aren't surprised to find an additional shipping fee after chosing their desired shipping method but I will take what I can get. I am tired of having the total shipping fees charged on high dollar items way off because the shipping module doesn't calculate the insurance fee correctly. NONE of the shipping modules ever got close to what I was being charged by my shippers. This has solved the problem.

Thanks!

Thank You LRS, this worked for me. I spent over an hour tring to figure this our using the mod instructions and It only took 5 min using yours!!!:clap::clap::clap:

Hello everyone, I'm having an issue with this module in one of my stores I haven't experienced before. We recently made some changes and we're offering free shipping above certain amount for which in the shipping insurance module we changed this setting

No Insurance Fee on Free Shipping
Do not calculate insurance for products that have free shipping (includes gv and virtual products)

from false to true, but I still see the shipping insurance being charged despite this setting. Shipping insurance shouldn't appear at all, or at least give a $0 amount. Free shipping is being calculated by the Free Shipping Options module and we're using the USPS module for shipping charges.

Any idea why this is not working?

Thanks!

Does anyone know how I could run a check for what shipping option the customer has selected and possibly make this module not show up???
i.e. If a customer selects UPS shipping the optional insurance mod does not show.
We've been having a lot of customers add on optional USPS insurance to UPS orders. We've even modified the titles to try and help clarify this but I don't think people bother to read it, they just see insurance and click it!
Thx

I solved this by putting a statement like the one below in bold red text just above the box they have to check to select the insurance:

Do not add shipping insurance if your shipping method is this, that or the other, as shipping insurance is already included. (obviously you would replace "this", "that" or "the other" with the shipping methods that apply to your store).

I don't want to sound like I don't care about my customers, because I do, but quite honestly if a statement in bold red text doesn't stand out well enough for them to see it, then so be it. At some point, customers need to be responsible for themselves and their online purchasing process.

mikestaps:

Does anyone know how I could run a check for what shipping option the customer has selected and possibly make this module not show up???
i.e. If a customer selects UPS shipping the optional insurance mod does not show.
We've been having a lot of customers add on optional USPS insurance to UPS orders. We've even modified the titles to try and help clarify this but I don't think people bother to read it, they just see insurance and click it!
Thx

ScriptJunkie:

Do not add shipping insurance if your shipping method is this, that or the other, as shipping insurance is already included. (obviously you would replace "this", "that" or "the other" with the shipping methods that apply to your store).

I agree... I had put this:

But we are still getting the UPS orders with USPS insurance...
Guess I need to add a little red to the text.

I know there has to be a way to run an if {xxx} statement, but I'm still learning php.

Yeah, a little red never hurts <grin>

I agree, there is probably a way using an if statement, but I don't know enough about PHP to even hazard a guess.

You could try posting your question directly to Numinix's website.

mikestaps:

I agree... I had put this:

But we are still getting the UPS orders with USPS insurance...
Guess I need to add a little red to the text.

I know there has to be a way to run an if {xxx} statement, but I'm still learning php.

For those interested:

To make this module only work when the USPS shipping module is selected change the if statement at the beginning of the ot_insurance.php file from this:

if ($_SESSION['shipping']['id'] = 'storepickup_storepickup')

To this:

if ($_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_EXPRESS'
   && $_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_PRIORITY'
   && $_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_PARCEL'
   && !IS_ADMIN_FLAG)

You would need to add more lines for other usps shipping options as needed, for example:

if ($_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_EXPRESS'
   && $_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_PRIORITY'
   && $_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_PARCEL'
   && $_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_FIRST CLASS'
   && $_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_MEDIA'
   && !IS_ADMIN_FLAG)

Hope this helps...

If you'd like to see it in action my test store is located @ TEST STORE

Nicely done :)

mikestaps:

For those interested:

To make this module only work when the USPS shipping module is selected change the if statement at the beginning of the ot_insurance.php file from this:

if ($_SESSION['shipping']['id'] = 'storepickup_storepickup')

> 
> To this:
> ```
if ($_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_EXPRESS'
   && $_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_PRIORITY'
   && $_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_PARCEL'
   && !IS_ADMIN_FLAG)

You would need to add more lines for other usps shipping options as needed, for example:

if ($_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_EXPRESS'
&& $_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_PRIORITY'
&& $_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_PARCEL'
&& $_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_FIRST CLASS'
&& $_SESSION['shipping']['id'] != 'usps_MEDIA'
&& !IS_ADMIN_FLAG)

> 
> Hope this helps...

Hello all you kindly zenners,
I read through every page in this topic and could not find a solution, but found others that had the same question I have. I am curious if anyone had found a solution to display the shipping insurance module below the shipping methods, rather than in the Order Details section. Just for reference we are using quick checkout.

Thank you in advance

gingabox:

I am curious if anyone had found a solution to display the shipping insurance module below the shipping methods, rather than in the Order Details section. Just for reference we are using quick checkout.

Thank you in advance
I'm working on updating the USPS Shipping module to include insurance quoting along with other optional services.
If you intend to use USPS then that will meet your needs.

Marco B:

I'm working on updating the USPS Shipping module to include insurance quoting along with other optional services.
If you intend to use USPS then that will meet your needs.

Thank you for your reply Marco. Really the only thing I am using it for is a $2.50 charge for a Signature Required at delivery option. I don't know if that is something I could do with your updates to the USPS module or not... but would be an awesome option (although probably not hugely popular).

Thanks again

Has anyone any idea why "Amount Exempt From Fee" is not working? I have it setup to $200 and the shipping insurance box still shows on checkout pages. Isn't this suppose to remove the shipping insurance box as it assumes the package is already insured?

Breaking my head trying to make this work :no:

What's the solution to this?
Thanks

abcgiftcards:

the module is great.

if a customer selects the option to insure his shipping on the order confirmation page it comes up as shipping insurance: $1.70

however, if the customer did not select to insure his shipping it comes up on the order confirmation page as shipping insurance: $0.00.

i would rather it be blank.

otherwise a customer who overlooked the option to select shipping insurance and sees on his confirmation page shipping insurance: $0.00 - he will think that he is getting the service for free.

all other modules that i installed (e.g. gift wrap, etc) they only show up on the order confirmation page if the option is selected.

JorgeR:

What's the solution to this?
Thanks

Jorge-
I'm going to look at using the same theory that in post# 315 to accomplish this. I am also looking at making this compatible with Marco's USPS module, so it may take me a little while....