Zen Cart Logo
Forums / The Zen Pub / Zen History

Zen History

Locked

Views: 216

Results 1 to 16 of 16
This thread is locked. New replies are disabled.
18 Jan 2008, 23:01
#2
wilt avatar

wilt

Oji-san

Join Date:
Jun 2003
Location:
Newcastle UK
Posts:
1,828
Plugin Contributions:
3

Re: Zen History

While the article does capture a lot of early history of Oscommerce and Zen Cart correctly, I have to say there are also a lot of inaccuracies, if not downright lies. Specifically I have NEVER spoken to Kerry Watson about how we fund Zen Cart, and what our future plans are for Zen Cart and the quote she says is from me is just completely made up.

Ian Wilson

19 Jan 2008, 00:52
#3
merlinpa1969 avatar

merlinpa1969

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Mar 2004
Posts:
13,031
Plugin Contributions:
4

Re: Zen History

lol reminds me of Rtia Skeeter from the harry potter books,

get the Name right, then write whatever the heck they want to.

19 Jan 2008, 01:50
#4
swguy avatar

swguy

Administrator

Join Date:
Feb 2006
Location:
Tampa Bay, Florida
Posts:
10,682
Plugin Contributions:
56

Re: Zen History

LOL! I just finished listening to book 5 and I was thinking the very same thing.

19 Jan 2008, 02:50
#5
merlinpa1969 avatar

merlinpa1969

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Mar 2004
Posts:
13,031
Plugin Contributions:
4

Re: Zen History

I got the whole boxed set for Christmas,
I just started book 5

19 Jan 2008, 12:53
#6
kuroi avatar

kuroi

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Apr 2006
Location:
London, UK
Posts:
10,475
Plugin Contributions:
11

Re: Zen History

It is an interesting article and, even if we have to take it with a pinch of salt, it shows clearly how Zen Cart benefited from the exodus from osCommerce of some of the more technically creative contributors.

19 Jan 2008, 14:32
#7
swguy avatar

swguy

Administrator

Join Date:
Feb 2006
Location:
Tampa Bay, Florida
Posts:
10,682
Plugin Contributions:
56

Re: Zen History

It is a shame (and aggravating) that she made those quotes up out of whole cloth. I always feel very let down when I find out things like that. The stupid thing is that most people are happy to give a blogger a brief quote when asked.

19 Jan 2008, 17:08
#8
birdoasis avatar

birdoasis

Inactive

Join Date:
Jun 2005
Location:
Cheney WA
Posts:
1,123
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: Zen History

so why don't we all inform the site of her blatant lies and get the article pulled? As a writer I really hate it when a pseudo writer doesn't do their homework.

19 Jan 2008, 17:34
#9
swguy avatar

swguy

Administrator

Join Date:
Feb 2006
Location:
Tampa Bay, Florida
Posts:
10,682
Plugin Contributions:
56

Re: Zen History

I think this is Wilt's prerogative.

19 Jan 2008, 17:40
#10
kim avatar

kim

Obaa-san

Join Date:
Jun 2003
Posts:
26,590
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: Zen History

She has been informed of the problem and so has the publisher.

22 Jan 2008, 22:11
#11
wilt avatar

wilt

Oji-san

Join Date:
Jun 2003
Location:
Newcastle UK
Posts:
1,828
Plugin Contributions:
3

Re: Zen History

As I said, while I have some specific problems where the article purports to quote me, I did find it rather interesting to read.

Strangely I was suprised at how recent some of the dates were. It does seem sometimes, like I have been doing this for a lot longer, I guess thats a measure of how much of your life you devote to something.

I've also taken a lot of stick at work for being called 'venerable' :)

22 Jan 2008, 22:24
#12
birdoasis avatar

birdoasis

Inactive

Join Date:
Jun 2005
Location:
Cheney WA
Posts:
1,123
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: Zen History

I can't help it,

Which of these definitions were they using when they called you venerable?

1**:** deserving to be venerated —used as a title for an Anglican archdeacon or for a Roman Catholic who has been accorded the lowest of three degrees of recognition for sanctity

2**:** made sacred especially by religious or historical association

3 a**:** calling forth respect through age, character, and attainments <a venerable jazz musician>; broadly : conveying an impression of aged goodness and benevolence <encouraged by the venerable doctor's head-nodding> b**:** impressive by reason of age <under venerable pines>

22 Jan 2008, 23:01
#13
wilt avatar

wilt

Oji-san

Join Date:
Jun 2003
Location:
Newcastle UK
Posts:
1,828
Plugin Contributions:
3

Re: Zen History

Also from wikipedia

In the Catholic Church's Latin rite, venerable is the title of a person who has been posthumously declared "heroic in virtue" during the investigation and process leading to canonization as a saint. Before one is considered venerable, he or she must be declared as such by a proclamation approved by the pope of having lived lives that were "heroic in virtue" -- the virtues being the Theological Virtues of faith, hope and charity and the Cardinal Virtues of prudence, justice, fortitude and temperance. The next step is beatification, at which point the person is referred to as Blessed, and then finally canonization, at which point the person is referred to as Saint.

The 7th century English monk St Bede was given the title venerable soon after his death; he was the first person to be recorded as Venerable

Which is interesting only in the fact that the 'Venerable Bede' is a fellow 'Geordie'.

22 Jan 2008, 23:06
#14
wilt avatar

wilt

Oji-san

Join Date:
Jun 2003
Location:
Newcastle UK
Posts:
1,828
Plugin Contributions:
3

Re: Zen History

or possibly more relevant, from dictionary.com

  1. extremely old or obsolete; ancient: a venerable automobile.

although if we take the automobile reference, I would prefer the term 'Classic'

22 Jan 2008, 23:07
#15
kuroi avatar

kuroi

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Apr 2006
Location:
London, UK
Posts:
10,475
Plugin Contributions:
11

Re: Zen History

wilt:

Which is interesting only in the fact that the 'Venerable Bede' is a fellow 'Geordie'.I thought the posthumously bit would have grabbed your attention :lamo:

22 Jan 2008, 23:10
#16
hem avatar

hem

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Sep 2007
Location:
Dublin, Ireland
Posts:
1,281
Plugin Contributions:
5

Re: Zen History

wilt:

While the article does capture a lot of early history of Oscommerce and Zen Cart correctly, I have to say there are also a lot of inaccuracies, if not downright lies. Specifically I have NEVER spoken to Kerry Watson about how we fund Zen Cart, and what our future plans are for Zen Cart and the quote she says is from me is just completely made up.

Ian Wilson

Any chance she got it from Wikipedia???