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19 Oct 2009, 9:55 PM
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Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Yes of course.

IH working server is version: 5.2.6.

IH not working server is version: 5.2.10.

I'm trying to compare PHP parameters from both servers to see if maybe one parameter on the NOT working server has it disabled.

19 Oct 2009, 10:04 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

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Yes of course.

IH working server is version: 5.2.6.

IH not working server is version: 5.2.10.

I'm trying to compare PHP parameters from both servers to see if maybe one parameter on the NOT working server has it disabled.

One of the certified hosts I use tried 5.2.10 and a lot of things broke. They rolled back to 5.2.9 and all was well with folks PHP scripts.

19 Oct 2009, 10:35 PM
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kiddo:

One of the certified hosts I use tried 5.2.10 and a lot of things broke. They rolled back to 5.2.9 and all was well with folks PHP scripts.

Good to know! Sounds like I should try this. Only thing I'm concerned about is whether upgrading or downgrading will affect the cart installed on the server? :lookaroun

19 Oct 2009, 10:56 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

I am very concerned too, but we should not talk of such things.

19 Oct 2009, 10:59 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

kiddo:

I am very concerned too, but we should not talk of such things.

Hmm...why? :blink:

19 Oct 2009, 11:11 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

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Hmm...why? :blink:Because there is a general concern about what will happen to most Zen stores when web hosts upgrade to ANY version of PHP greater than v5.2.9. This apparently is breaking point for Zen Cart and many of it's add-ons.. (That's why I asked about PHP versions when you reported your findings..)

19 Oct 2009, 11:13 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Well ok. Silll, do you think downgrading to 5.2.9 from 5.2.10 will affect the cart in any way? Ruin the database or stuff like that?

19 Oct 2009, 11:20 PM
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Well ok. Silll, do you think downgrading to 5.2.9 from 5.2.10 will affect the cart in any way? Ruin the database or stuff like that?Unlikely, but I am not the best person to ask.. You might wanna contact your host and ask them.. In any case you should back up your store files and DB before rolling back anyway..

19 Oct 2009, 11:34 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

My friend is my host but since my question regards zen cart I'm not sure he'll know...anyway, I got the backups ready so I'll try downgrading tomorrow. If everything works out, the problem will be solved at last. :)

20 Oct 2009, 2:41 AM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Asdesign:

My friend is my host but since my question regards zen cart I'm not sure he'll know...
Anything under 5.3 is fine, do not downgrade, your problem is a faulty installation.
Diva, you made me break my promise!!!

20 Oct 2009, 2:52 AM
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ckosloff:

Anything under 5.3 is fine, do not downgrade, your problem is a faulty installation.
Diva, you made me break my promise!!!

Ohh..are you sure about this? So I just have to ask my friend to reinstall the PHP modules on his server and stay with the same version?

20 Oct 2009, 3:08 AM
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Ohh..are you sure about this?
I'm sure that anything under 5.3 works, don't know what your friend is doing.

20 Oct 2009, 4:01 AM
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Anything under 5.3 is fine, do not downgrade, your problem is a faulty installation.
Diva, you made me break my promise!!!
HA! Admit it.. You love me that's why you came back!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

20 Oct 2009, 12:13 PM
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HA! Admit it.. You love me that's why you came back!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Your husband will shoot us if he reads this.
Regarding 5.2.10 and 5.2.11, they are basically security improvements on the same 5.2.x branch.
Re https://www.php.net the changelog for these versions.
5.3 is a different branch which will break even Drupal.
So, logic says that if it worked on 5.2.9 it should continue to work on higher versions of the same branch.
HOWEVER, we know for a fact that it works on 5.2.9.
So, just to eliminate all possibilities it wouldn't be a bad idea after all to try that.

20 Oct 2009, 3:29 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

ckosloff:

Your husband will shoot us if he reads this..Nah.. he'll giggle.. He already knows his wife is a nut..:laugh:

ckosloff:

Regarding 5.2.10 and 5.2.11, they are basically security improvements on the same 5.2.x branch.
Re www.php.net the changelog for these versions.
5.3 is a different branch which will break even Drupal.
So, logic says that if it worked on 5.2.9 it should continue to work on higher versions of the same branch.
HOWEVER, we know for a fact that it works on 5.2.9.
So, just to eliminate all possibilities it wouldn't be a bad idea after all to try that.Ahhh so Zen Cart is not alone.. Good information..

20 Oct 2009, 4:42 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

The previous version of IH2 kinda worked but it worked.

Today, I decided to upgrade to the new version. In order to not have any conflicts with the lightbox, I uninstalled it first and then uninstalled the old version of IH. And then installed the new version. I didn't just overwrite the old files, I went in and uninstalled the old files so the new ones were fresh.

I use winscp as my ftp.

I can get to my backend but if I go to access IH, I get a 500 server error. And it's not listed under Configuration>Images like it should be.

This is not a new site but the only upgrade I have installed is the patch.

I have these mods:
TinyMice
Email Exporter
Google Checkout
Paypal Verified Logo
Blank Sidebox
Sales Report
Maximum Allowed in Cart

I have a template that is using the classic folder instead of it's own to avoid problems. I broke the site trying to use any other template folder.

We have our own VPS, I checked the php version before I started, it's version 5.2.9.

Any clues or do I go back to the old version?

It worked sortof, but it had issues such as the png files did not work, gif files worked about 1/3 of the time. etc.

Liz

20 Oct 2009, 11:37 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

I have been working on this for days and cannot fix it.

I have the Image hander installed and working...to a point.

When I bring up Tools -> Image Handler and the the product, I get the product with three placeholders fo the images, but no images. I just get three boxes with the red X. If I upload the images again, I get a second row of the same images with X's, but these have a delete button under them. I canno get the images to show.

The rollover works in the store for the small image only. If I delete the image from the product and then upload again, the rollover doesn't work.

Can someone help please?
Thanks,
katlyn

20 Oct 2009, 11:53 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

DivaVocals:

Ahhh so Zen Cart is not alone.. Good information..
Actually Zend recommends to update to 5.2.11 for users of the 5.2.x branch.
So it does not make sense to me that this recommended upgrade can break a 5.2.x install.
The only way to know for sure is to actually do a fresh install of a Zen Cart demo store on a 5.2.10 or 5.2.11 PHP version.
I have not done that.
There might be a hidden vulnerability in Zen Cart that these security enhancements address, without an actual test it is hard to tell.

21 Oct 2009, 5:22 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Hi everyone.. Just got this PM.. Hoping the community can weigh in on this.. I have some thoughts but I would like to get other wiser opinions as well..:smile:

kachinas:

Hi
I am so hoping you can help me. It looks like I may have lost my store as I can't get into admin.

My store is on 1.38a with IH2. I thought I followed the directions, but apparently I did something wrong.

I uploaded the new files, and when I tried to get into admin
I have the following error:

Fatal error: Cannot redeclare bmz_clear_cache()
in data/home/kachinas/websites/kachinaoutpost.com/docs/includes/
functions/functions_bmz_io.php

Is there anything I can do that can allow me to get back into
admin?

Unfortunately, as I don't know how to "test", this is a live store.
I did stop the advertising, and it's a relatively new site. I also had them backup the data on the server two days ago.

Maybe I should have uninstalled and reinstalled IH.

As a bit of background, I had uploaded the large images
480 x 640 thru IH, but Google has always said the site was too slow. So I actually did the large and medium images and optimized them. I didn't realize I should have cleared the bmz cache. One of the articles mentioned that the best way to do that is eliminate the folders in the bmz_cache, which may be what set this problem in motion.

I still have the older IH download which may have the older version of this file. Would that help, or make things worse??

Any help you can give me would be very much appreciated.

Thanks so much.

21 Oct 2009, 5:29 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

kachinas:

Maybe I should have uninstalled and reinstalled IH.
My FIRST suggestion is to carefully remove all of the IH2 files and folders.

Then re-install the latest version of IH2. DO NOT install ANY of the "Optional Extras" files.. If you read the latest version if IH2s readme, you will understand why.

kachinas:

I still have the older IH download which may have the older version of this file. Would that help, or make things worse??
Unfortunately it depends on which older version of IH2 you are referring to. The version numbering from previous versions was pretty much non-existent. So you would have to know the date and author of the specific version for me to give you an answer to this question.. At least ONE of the previous versions was problematic. All that to say, I do not think it would be a good idea to rollback to an older version.

The latest version includes a few javascript improvements that have been posted in the forum, along with improved documentation, version numbering, and some cleanup of un-needed files/folder (not used by IH at all). There were no changes to core code at all.. Again the readme (which almost no one ever reads :laugh:) explains the changes found in the latest version..