Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

I have to say that i really think that the "certified mod" approach is an exceptional idea and something that the mods should genuinely consider. As far as paying something minimal (such as $1) for a mod would be fantastic if it would mean paying a dedicated programmer to be responsible for changes to the code and keeping it current and up to date.

At least, that's my one and a half cents.

blag:

I am only suggesting that the Administrators of ZC, whosoever they may be, create a body of guru volunteers which validates and Certifies the code for a given mod when installed in a 'fresh' and unmodified example of the then 'current' release of ZC.

I fully appreciate that it would be impossible to check every mod's effect on every other mod, but my suggestion would at least give the potential user some degree of reassurance in that it is clean code when used in a specified 'base' environment. Any changes in either ZC, or in a mod, would require that the mod is re-submitted for Certification.

The un-certified mods could still exist in the downloads area, but Certified mods woul be identified somehow.

This could be financed quite easily I would have thought. Let's say that each download requires that the user pays a modest sum for the right to download a 'certified' mod, say $1 irrespective of the complexity of the mod, then ZC Admin might generate quite a bit of income. This income could be used to reimburse those who are responsible for issuing the Certification!! (Personally I wouldn't object to paying $1 for a mod - many are worth much more - and I don't have a problem in the Admin using the money because it is for the benefit of all users, which is why we contribute the mods in the first place)

It's comforting to know that your mods do validate - I need to check my own modest contribution I suppose!!!

As I said before copy includes/templates/classic/jscript/jscript_imagehover.js to includes/templates/template_default/jscript/jscript_imagehover.js . I don't know why it matters but it does. I would also try (as a test) disableing your googlesyndication ads JS, it may be interfeering.

It also looks like your style_imagehover.css is corrpt. Make sure your ftp program knows that .css file are ASCII, not binary and reupload it.

Also, I got my copy from http://downloads.breakmyzencart.com/image-handler_2.0-zc13.zip , not the downloads section here. I would not be supprised to learn that they are slightly different.

crabdance:

Ok... new behavior to report. I have noticed that zoom images only works in Firefox if the "IH zoom gravity" is set to the default (Southeast). It does not work in any other position. Does that make any sense?

Just hoping to give enough information so maybe I can get the issues with IE resolved.

thanks everyone,
-cd-

gothstone:

That file needs to go in includes/templates/template_default/jscript/ . I have no clue why, but I've never had any luck putting it in my customtemplate directory.
ZC has a problem with Javascripts.

You must put ALL the relevant Javascripts in
either your includes/templates/template_default/jscript/ folder
or in my template folder/jscript location,
not in both, because you will encounter problems if you split your scripts between these two folders.

Hi, I installed Hoverbox2 on my test site and it worked great. I then installed Image Handler2 and that works ok but now Hoverbox2 has stopped working. Has anyone had this problem before and found a solution or have I just made a mistake. My test site is here; http://www.lingerieforadults.com/
Thanks in advance for any help.

This multiple image thing seems to be problem for many people I still haven't seen a single helpful answer.
Surely one of you gurus can explain this in PLAIN ENGLISH!

Please read further.

I'm sorry I can't help you but all I am trying to do is post a help thread.
This entire ZEN forum is the most frustrating experience I have ever encountered.
When I first went to support I get directed to FAQs which are totally inadequate, don't post a solution or get you to install a plug or something which is so complicated that you get into more problems than help.
Every FAQ I read is geared to web programmers.
Anyway I tried to post a help and got a box which asked me to state my problem.
I did so and then got told I could Not because I was not registered.
Everything I wrote down was gone.
So I registered.

Twice. (Could not find help before)

Now they seem to think I am a resident genius like them and don't need help, since I can't find any place where I can post a help request.

This is the only way I could communicate with someone, by replying to another request fro help.

Who are these ZEN people that they would ask for donations when they can't even provide SIMPLE solutions to all the complications they themselves have created.

There are all kinds of articles on multiple product images but I can't get them to show.
The other people who have asked the same things I have never seem to get a satisfactory answer either.
I followed one thread where they forced me to jump to 5 other ones since they could not be bothered to repeat what someone else had supposedly done. They obviously did not follow up since each thread fizzled out.
So I am going to post this in other help requests and maybe someone will simplify this entire forum.
HELP! Means allowing someone to ask for help in a simple way. ie: Somewhere there should be a "Post your help requests here."

gothstone:

As I said before copy includes/templates/classic/jscript/jscript_imagehover.js to includes/templates/template_default/jscript/jscript_imagehover.js . I don't know why it matters but it does. I would also try (as a test) disableing your googlesyndication ads JS, it may be interfeering.

It also looks like your style_imagehover.css is corrpt. Make sure your ftp program knows that .css file are ASCII, not binary and reupload it.

Also, I got my copy from http://downloads.breakmyzencart.com/image-handler_2.0-zc13.zip , not the downloads section here. I would not be supprised to learn that they are slightly different.

hi goth,
Thanks so much for trying to help. I have tried about every combination that you can think of when it comes to "where" the files should go. I just don't seem to be able to get it to work. When I put the files in the /template/template_default directory/jscript.. then Firefox doesn't even work. So far the best I have been able to do is to get Firefox to work but not IE..

I also completely removed the google ads and that did not help either.

I also did a fresh install with the files from: breakmyzencart.com.... still did not work... If you have any other ideas please let me know... I appreciate it.

-cd-

confused:

This multiple image thing seems to be problem for many people I still haven't seen a single helpful answer.
Surely one of you gurus can explain this in PLAIN ENGLISH!

Please read further.

I'm sorry I can't help you but all I am trying to do is post a help thread.
This entire ZEN forum is the most frustrating experience I have ever encountered.
When I first went to support I get directed to FAQs which are totally inadequate, don't post a solution or get you to install a plug or something which is so complicated that you get into more problems than help.
Every FAQ I read is geared to web programmers.
Anyway I tried to post a help and got a box which asked me to state my problem.
I did so and then got told I could Not because I was not registered.
Everything I wrote down was gone.
So I registered.

Twice. (Could not find help before)

Now they seem to think I am a resident genius like them and don't need help, since I can't find any place where I can post a help request.

This is the only way I could communicate with someone, by replying to another request fro help.

Who are these ZEN people that they would ask for donations when they can't even provide SIMPLE solutions to all the complications they themselves have created.

There are all kinds of articles on multiple product images but I can't get them to show.
The other people who have asked the same things I have never seem to get a satisfactory answer either.
I followed one thread where they forced me to jump to 5 other ones since they could not be bothered to repeat what someone else had supposedly done. They obviously did not follow up since each thread fizzled out.
So I am going to post this in other help requests and maybe someone will simplify this entire forum.
HELP! Means allowing someone to ask for help in a simple way. ie: Somewhere there should be a "Post your help requests here."
If you are not useing the image handler mod, here are your simple directions: https://www.zen-cart.com/tutorials/index.php?article=58

If you are useing the image handler mod, go to your admin site. Click on Tools, then on Image handler. Select the category of the item you want to add extra pictures to, then select the item itself, ad click display.
Click the new file button. Click the first browse button. Find the extra image you want to use on your hard drive, and click open. Click save. Thats it.

I would highly suggest you buy the manual for ZenCart from here: http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=16

It will walk you through setting up your store from the first steps. Go through it cover to cover over a few weeks, and make sure you understand it. If you have a question, search these forums, the wiki (http://www.zen-cart.com/wiki/index.php), and the FAQ's (https://www.zen-cart.com/tutorials/index.php). If you don't find an asnwer, then post a question.

ZenCart is not for everyone. If you have no interest in learning any scripting (basicaly programing, but there is a semantic difference) and you want to do more then ZenCart does out of the box, you will probably never like it. When and if ZenCart gets to the point that absolutly anyone can make it do anything they want, simply by clicking checkboxes the developers will be very very rich. As it stands, they let anyone who wants to use their product for free. They would like you to contribute, but they don't push. Your only other option is going to be hireing a developer to do everything for you. They won't ask nicely for a donation of whatever you feel like, they will sent you a bill; probably before they do any work at that.

People who read through the forums daily can get very tired of answering the same questions over and over again. Especialy when the answers are clearly documented. It also makes the forum a mess. The post you read linked to several other threads, and this bothered you. But if all the people asking repeaded questions had searched for theselves instead of asking again, you would have found your answers at the top of your own search, instead of reading 5 different pages. There are people on tis forum who will bend over backwards to help you, but you have to try to help yourself first.

Man, I'm compleatly stumped at this point. If you want to trust me, you can PM me a username/password for both your admin and ftp and I will poke around and try to figure it out. If not, I don't blame you, I would be pretty leary of it myself. My only other thought would be building a clean dev site, and installing IH. Once thats working, you coulld start adding your templates and mods in piece by piece till it broke.

Oh, ya, duh, I almost forgot. Try uploading a clean template (I know darkness is 100% in 1.3.7) and switching to it for a min. If it works that way, you have a template error. BTW - in the future I would suggest nameing your custom template something other than classic. That way you can always fall back to classic to test template vs mod issues.

crabdance:

hi goth,
Thanks so much for trying to help. I have tried about every combination that you can think of when it comes to "where" the files should go. I just don't seem to be able to get it to work. When I put the files in the /template/template_default directory/jscript.. then Firefox doesn't even work. So far the best I have been able to do is to get Firefox to work but not IE..

I also completely removed the google ads and that did not help either.

I also did a fresh install with the files from: breakmyzencart.com.... still did not work... If you have any other ideas please let me know... I appreciate it.

-cd-

I don't know that these can be made to play nicely. IH2 changes zencart to dynamicaly create the images. So your image names enup being random garbage like http://www.lingerieforadults.com/bmz_cache/d/db523541b449ec9a2a45573c05c40850.image.100x75.JPG

Hoverbox2 is looking for traditional image names like this
http://www.lingerieforadults.com/images/large/coffee-machine_LRG.JPG

Problem is, that files doesn't exist on your site.

The only solution would be to change the Hoverbox code so it will look for the correct file name of http://www.lingerieforadults.com/images/coffee-machine.JPG
That should be realativly easy to do (I've never look at hoverbox so I can't say for sure) but its not ideal. One of the benefits of IH2 is you can upload your origional image from you camera at say 6 megapixles, and it will create all the small images for you. If you go this route, and upload a huge image like that your user will have to wait for a huge image to download that won't fir on their screen.

The better but harder fix it to make hoverbox handle images just like zencart does after the IH2 mod. That way it will pull the dynamic large image which you set a size limit to. The problem is, I have no idea how hoverbox pulls image names, an only a vuage understanding of how zencart/IH2 does it. Tim (the guy who wrote IH2) could do it, but I don't think anyone has heard from him in forever. I'm not sure who else besides the zencart developers could do it, and they don't usualy rewrite mods.

Good luck!

lancaster:

Hi, I installed Hoverbox2 on my test site and it worked great. I then installed Image Handler2 and that works ok but now Hoverbox2 has stopped working. Has anyone had this problem before and found a solution or have I just made a mistake. My test site is here; http://www.lingerieforadults.com/
Thanks in advance for any help.

crabdance:

hi goth,
Thanks so much for trying to help. I have tried about every combination that you can think of when it comes to "where" the files should go. I just don't seem to be able to get it to work. When I put the files in the /template/template_default directory/jscript.. then Firefox doesn't even work. So far the best I have been able to do is to get Firefox to work but not IE..

I also completely removed the google ads and that did not help either.

I also did a fresh install with the files from: breakmyzencart.com.... still did not work... If you have any other ideas please let me know... I appreciate it.

-cd-

You having trouble with IE-6?
There is an error/bug in jscript_imagehover.js that affects IE.
Did you try this fix?
http://forum.zen-cart.com/showpost.php?p=381081&postcount=1252
Link on the "very" bottom of the post where you can download a patched jscript_imagehover.js.

Also note that the newest IH files are located in Zen Cart downloads.

M

Hello Everyone
IH2 is doing it to me again and I do not remember what I done last time to make it work.
It does not show the image with mouseover for the new products in the homepage. I does not have the + in the little image.
Can you help me rember what to do, Please?
Best Regards

francocauter:

Hello Everyone
IH2 is doing it to me again and I do not remember what I done last time to make it work.
It does not show the image with mouseover for the new products in the homepage. I does not have the + in the little image.
Can you help me rember what to do, Please?
Best Regards

I answered your question here: http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70627&page=7

testuser:

I answered your question here: http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70627&page=7

yes thanks very much for that it worked fine

Hi There "Houston"
Nice to hear from you at last.
That worked great thanks very much
Best Regards
Franco

"File exists! Please alter the base name or suffix."

How do I fix this error when uploading an image?

lizar5-:

"File exists! Please alter the base name or suffix."

How do I fix this error when uploading an image?

Try deleting the image with the same name, or if you have already ... try clearing the image cache under Tools :: Image Handler 2 .

Hello,

I tried Image Handler on my development environment. It provides great functionalities and seems to work fine. So I would like some more information before to deploy it on the production platform :

• I download image-handler_2.0-zc13 from breakmyzencart.com
  There is also (another?) version on zencart.com download site.

  Are they the same? If not what is the the good version for zc1.3.7?

• I compare some modules which replace original ZC's. I feel uncomfortable to see that some of them seem older than original ones. For example: includes/functions/html_output.php

  Is the current version of Image Handler fully compatible with ZC1.3.7?

• I think that image preparation "on the fly" generates overloads.

Can you give me usual limits to respect to be sure our online customers get the best response time (max number of small images by pages for example)?

• Image Handler activate the hover functionnality based on "small image size" parameters. The Index page "What's new" listing is based on "Image - New product size" parameters. For many reasons, I set these parameters (width and height) higher than "small image" :
  Small Image Width 130
  Small Image Height 130
  Image - New Products Width 150
  Image - New Products Height 150
  The result is that the hover functionnality is not activated on these images.

  Do you know a solution to activate it anyway? change the size is not an answer :wink:...

Thank you in advance for your answers.

Hi,

Zoom was working fine but somewhere along the road it stopped:

http://www.musecards.com/store/index.php?main_page=index

Any idea how i can get it to work again?

Many thanks,
AW

bluealice:

Hi,

Zoom was working fine but somewhere along the road it stopped:

http://www.musecards.com/store/index.php?main_page=index

Any idea how i can get it to work again?

Many thanks,
AW

What did you change? Or what did you add?
IH only stops working if you did something or left something out.
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Just asking because you are missing a file, in this case the JS file.

M

cdelab:

Hello,

I tried Image Handler on my development environment. It provides great functionalities and seems to work fine. So I would like some more information before to deploy it on the production platform :

• I download image-handler_2.0-zc13 from breakmyzencart.com
  There is also (another?) version on zencart.com download site.

  Are they the same? If not what is the the good version for zc1.3.7?

• I compare some modules which replace original ZC's. I feel uncomfortable to see that some of them seem older than original ones. For example: includes/functions/html_output.php

  Is the current version of Image Handler fully compatible with ZC1.3.7?

• I think that image preparation "on the fly" generates overloads.

Can you give me usual limits to respect to be sure our online customers get the best response time (max number of small images by pages for example)?

• Image Handler activate the hover functionnality based on "small image size" parameters. The Index page "What's new" listing is based on "Image - New product size" parameters. For many reasons, I set these parameters (width and height) higher than "small image" :
  Small Image Width 130
  Small Image Height 130
  Image - New Products Width 150
  Image - New Products Height 150
  The result is that the hover functionnality is not activated on these images.

  Do you know a solution to activate it anyway? change the size is not an answer :wink:...

Thank you in advance for your answers.

I know, this thread has 174 pages but if you spent time you would have found most if not all the answers to your questions.
But I feeling in a helpful mood so... :D
Newest IH --> **Version:** 2.0 v0916 in the Zen Cart downloads <---click

If you check it out, you see it does not even have html_output.php.
It's stated right on the page.
Also works very well with ZC1.3.7
One of the reasons to use IH is..

• Improved site performance (faster loading, faster display).
  Ok, some people have trouble because they are uploading very large image files (2+MB) and if it is not IH that chokes but could be either GD libraries or ImageMagick that chokes. Work around is to upload the largest file you want displayed (large file to display is 450x450, so that is the size uploaded).
  Also loading up a page with a lot of images will slow down response time no matter if you use IH or not.

And you last question --> no.
Hoover only works on small images.

M

tophand:

You having trouble with IE-6?
There is an error/bug in jscript_imagehover.js that affects IE.
Did you try this fix?
http://forum.zen-cart.com/showpost.php?p=381081&postcount=1252
Link on the "very" bottom of the post where you can download a patched jscript_imagehover.js.

Also note that the newest IH files are located in Zen Cart downloads.

M
Hi tophand,
thanks for recommending the file fix but I have already tried that. IE still refuses to work right. FF works fine, just not IE.

If you think of anything else, please let me know. I appreciate the help!