2004g35:

Has anyone had this problem..... I am using PayPal Website Payments Pro - works great. However, you are required to have PayPal express also installed. If a customer choses PayPal express - they are sent straight to the PayPal site and they do not see and therefore are not given the choice of getting insurance or not. Is this a problem with the program or am I missing something. Thanks

Yes, if they skip the checkout system, they will not be given the option to add insurance. This is not a bug.

If insurance is REQUIRED, you shouldn't be using any payment module that can skip the checkout...

I have no reason to change from PayPal Website Payments - PayPal says the PayPal Express is required? Is this really true? If so, is there a 'work around' for my insurance problem. Thanks for your help

2004g35:

I have no reason to change from PayPal Website Payments - PayPal says the PayPal Express is required? Is this really true? If so, is there a 'work around' for my insurance problem. Thanks for your help

The only thing I can think of is to create a product called "Insurance" and put a link to it in your cart during checkout with a note about it being required. Of course they could still checkout without it though. Its either that, or build it into your shipping costs either with the postage fees or with a handling fee.

Well, if it is a required amount, does it still get added? Because this is an order total module that is automatically added if required. Can you confirm this?

Hi, thanks for your answer

Well I don't want to offer a mandatory insurance, I just want to make it checked by default, so if customer don't want it they just have to uncheck it

Is there a way to do this?

Thanks

Not without editing the code for the module...

numinix:

Not without editing the code for the module...

yes I guess, but wich part of the code?

I just installed the Optional Shipping Insurance module. Installed went absolutely easy! So far, however, I haven;t been able to make it optional. Question: Is there a way to limit the insurance fee to just items shipped via USPS? UPS insurance is included in the UPS rate already.

My Admin/Modules/Order Total settings :

Shipping Insurance

Enable Insurance Module
true

Offer Shipping Insurance?
true

Sort Order
500

Use Table Rates?
true

Alternate Insurance Type
percent

Insurance Percentage
0

Insurance Rate
$0.00

Increment Amount
$0.00

Amount Exempt From Fee
$0.00

Tax Class
NC residents

No Insurance Fee on Virtual Products
true

No Insurance Fee on Gift Vouchers
true

No Insurance Fee on Free Shipping
true

Required Insurance Amount
$24.00

Insurance Zone 1
--none--

Zone 1 Insurance Table
USPS: 50:1.65,100:2.05,200:2.45,300:4.60,:400:5.50,500:6.40,600:7.30

It would only be optional for purchases under $24.00. Also, your table rates at the bottom are completely wrong. You can't have USPS: or spaces between a number and its decimal place (i.e. 1 .50)...

At this moment there is no way to restrict to a shipping method. This would be in addition to or as a replacement for other insurance fees.

numinix:

It would only be optional for purchases under $24.00. Also, your table rates at the bottom are completely wrong. You can't have USPS: or spaces between a number and its decimal place (i.e. 1 .50)...

At this moment there is no way to restrict to a shipping method. This would be in addition to or as a replacement for other insurance fees.

Aha! I understand about the inclusion of the USPS and the additional space on one of the values. Thanks a lot.

Any suggestions of how to set it up so that insurance is mandatory for only USPS customers? I can't legitimately charge UPS customers since the insurance is alreaady included in the UPS shipping charge. (Could I just set a standard fee and note it on the shipping choices selection for USPS and somehow figure a way to build it into the total as part of the "handling fee"?)

If you are NOT using FEC, then you could make it so that the optional insurance doesn't apply if $_SESSION['shipping'] = whatever UPS is identified as.

Pretty simple if you know PHP. If you don't, look into having a programmer do this for you.

I'm currently using Zones for International shipping, and 3 different (cloned) Table modules for the U.S. So far, I can't get the "Use Table Rates?" setting to work...

Now, the main problem is, if I list an "Insurance Rate" of $1.65 (standard for $0.01-$50.00), and have that increase by either $50 or $100 increments, the cost of insurance becomes inaccurate and excessive. Same with using a percentage...

Ideally, I'd like to use the hard-coded method of the older "shipping_insurance" module. Can the below code (from the older module) be integrated into 3.10?

if (! $_SESSION['insurance']) {

           $charge_it = 'false';
       }

// use hard-coded usps rates
if ($ratetable == 'US') {
if ($order->info['subtotal'] < 50.01) {
$insurance = 1.65;
} else if ($order->info['subtotal'] < 100.01) {
$insurance = 2.05;
} else if ($order->info['subtotal'] < 200.01) {
$insurance = 2.45;
} else if ($order->info['subtotal'] < 300.01) {
$insurance = 4.60;
} else if ($order->info['subtotal'] < 400.01) {
$insurance = 5.50;
} else if ($order->info['subtotal'] < 500.01) {
$insurance = 6.40;
} else if ($order->info['subtotal'] < 600.01) {
$insurance = 7.30;
} else {
$insurance = 7.30 + ((($order->info['subtotal'] - 600) / 100) * 1.05);
}

oldschoolrocker:

I'm currently using Zones for International shipping, and 3 different (cloned) Table modules for the U.S. So far, I can't get the "Use Table Rates?" setting to work...

Now, the main problem is, if I list an "Insurance Rate" of $1.65 (standard for $0.01-$50.00), and have that increase by either $50 or $100 increments, the cost of insurance becomes inaccurate and excessive. Same with using a percentage...

Ideally, I'd like to use the hard-coded method of the older "shipping_insurance" module. Can the below code (from the older module) be integrated into 3.10?

if (! $_SESSION['insurance']) {

$charge_it = 'false';
}

// use hard-coded usps rates
if ($ratetable == 'US') {
if ($order->info['subtotal'] < 50.01) {
$insurance = 1.65;
} else if ($order->info['subtotal'] < 100.01) {
$insurance = 2.05;
} else if ($order->info['subtotal'] < 200.01) {
$insurance = 2.45;
} else if ($order->info['subtotal'] < 300.01) {
$insurance = 4.60;
} else if ($order->info['subtotal'] < 400.01) {
$insurance = 5.50;
} else if ($order->info['subtotal'] < 500.01) {
$insurance = 6.40;
} else if ($order->info['subtotal'] < 600.01) {
$insurance = 7.30;
} else {
$insurance = 7.30 + ((($order->info['subtotal'] - 600) / 100) * 1.05);
}

The rates for UPS are given as the default rates when you first install the module. If you want to keep it this way, do not change anything and put use table rates.

numinix:

The rates for UPS are given as the default rates when you first install the module. If you want to keep it this way, do not change anything and put use table rates.

Hi numinix,

Thanks for your reply. Like I said, I'm not using zones for the U.S. So, as I understand it (per your instructions), that won't work for me. I offer several table shipping methods (priority, firstclass & media mail; based on number of items), so one zone for the U.S. is not an option.

The only way I can make this "work", and not show $0.00 or make it mandatory, is to enter $1.65 in the Insurance Rate field. But increments of that amount quickly exceed the actual postal rates, and I don't really want that - I offer insurance as a service to my customers, not as a means to profit.

Hard-coding the rates (as in the earlier module) is the only thing that came to mind, as a "possible" solution. If that would in fact do the trick, I believe it would be an excellent option - I can't be the only one who would benefit from something like that.

I don't see why you cannot "hard-code" the rates into the tables. That is what the table rate is for. It replaces the hard-coded rates before in exactly the same way but gives people more versatility in changing the rates or adding more rates for different zones.

It already creates a new table for every zone you have defined, what more could you ask for?

numinix:

I don't see why you cannot "hard-code" the rates into the tables. That is what the table rate is for. It replaces the hard-coded rates before in exactly the same way but gives people more versatility in changing the rates or adding more rates for different zones.

It already creates a new table for every zone you have defined, what more could you ask for?

For it to work for me. : ) Seriously, this is a great contrib. I'm just trying to figure out how to replicate or incorporate the function of the original.

Just to clarify: I'm using 3 (cloned) table.php modules for U.S. shipping. I ship by count, not weight. I don't use the USPS module. I'm using zones for International shipping. I've tried adding extra zones for the US, but could only get 1 to display during checkout; so I went back to tables.

Either my scenario isn't compatible with this mod, or I'm doing something wrong. Any input would be appreciated.

if each table.php is set to a different zone of the USA, that means you'd have 3 zones defined in your zones definitions.

This would cause the optional handling fee module to create three tables in your admin. You would then put in the rates in each table for each zone which your table rate module is set to.

Thanks for your time, numinix.

numinix:

if each table.php is set to a different zone of the USA, that means you'd have 3 zones defined in your zones definitions.

What I've been trying to reiterate is, I'm using 3 different shipping methods for the U.S. -- Media Mail, First Class and Priority -- and I've created a separate table.php for each (table.php, table2.php, table3.php).

I just want the "optional" insurance to display during checkout, where it can be added to the desired shipping method; and do so with proper rate increments. This was quickly and easily achieved with the previous ot_insurance module (with the hard-coded rates). Can this be reproduced with 3.10/11?

numinix:

This would cause the optional handling fee module to create three tables in your admin. You would then put in the rates in each table for each zone which your table rate module is set to.

If your meaning is literal, I miss the connection. I include handling in the cost of shipping. If you mean additional input fields would be produced, for other values, then I'm still lost...

As you can tell, this really has me stumped... If you or anyone else could walk me thru the necessary steps, to accomplish what I'm trying to do, I'd be forever grateful. Seriously.

As luck would have it, everything is now working correctly. Having tired many combinations of settings and tweaks, I can't relay a clear sequence. But all came together with my last reinstall of the insurance module - what wasn't there with prior reinstalls suddenly appeared! What a relief... Now it's time to back everything up. : )

You need to define your zones BEFORE installing the module or it will not create a seperate table for each zone. They are created dynamically when you press install depending on the number of defined zones.

Glad you got it sorted out.